Okay, I'll try to phrase it like a fable:
What do you do if you have this wonderful dog, that's been with you for years and you never want to miss it. Everything is good and stable and you feel very secure. The dog is pretty grumpy, but you know how to handle this.
Then there's this very sweet puppy. A little clumsy still but adorable and willing to learn. I got very attached and want to keep the puppy.
The older dog though does not like the puppy for unknown reasons. It's not a generally jealous dog, not at all. But the dog clearly has no patience for the neediness and whineyness of the fresh one. Although having a heart of true gold, the older dog started barking at the pup. Now the pup is scared and hides, even though it liked and respected the older dog.
Now I feel like I have to do something. This has been going on for 8 months. The dog feels like the puppy asks for too much attention and can't protect me. I say, I don't need another watch dog, I'm willing to put some energy into educating the lil one.
Do I have to bring one of them to the pet shelter or is there another way out? I love them both lots in very different ways. They don't want to communicate but have the same social environment, scene, parties, some friends. I'm stressed out, tired and sad.
Advice anyone?
PS: please don't give me shit for comparing my lovers to pets, I know they truely don't mind.
What do you do if you have this wonderful dog, that's been with you for years and you never want to miss it. Everything is good and stable and you feel very secure. The dog is pretty grumpy, but you know how to handle this.
Then there's this very sweet puppy. A little clumsy still but adorable and willing to learn. I got very attached and want to keep the puppy.
The older dog though does not like the puppy for unknown reasons. It's not a generally jealous dog, not at all. But the dog clearly has no patience for the neediness and whineyness of the fresh one. Although having a heart of true gold, the older dog started barking at the pup. Now the pup is scared and hides, even though it liked and respected the older dog.
Now I feel like I have to do something. This has been going on for 8 months. The dog feels like the puppy asks for too much attention and can't protect me. I say, I don't need another watch dog, I'm willing to put some energy into educating the lil one.
Do I have to bring one of them to the pet shelter or is there another way out? I love them both lots in very different ways. They don't want to communicate but have the same social environment, scene, parties, some friends. I'm stressed out, tired and sad.
Advice anyone?
PS: please don't give me shit for comparing my lovers to pets, I know they truely don't mind.
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Re: pet love
Wed, November 15, 2006 - 5:49 AMtell the puppies if they can't play nice, they don't get any play but you might end up with no pets.
or perhaps the old dog does have reason for not liking the new puppy. is the old dog feeling negelicted, feeling like she is no longer the alpha dog or that she is not a good watch dog. there are always reason for pet's action, they just aren't always rational but they are always valid.
if she can't see the value in your new puppy it is an uphill struggle. old dogs need space and time and reassurance. if the old dog doesn't like the neediness and whineyness of the pup, what can the three of you do to not have it affect her? is the puppy's behavior affecting how you act with the old dog?
for me a basic must is that all the pets play nice. if they can't do it, then the cute but problem pup sometimes needs to go or the old dog might need some doggy therapy(how woo woo) -
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Re: pet love
Wed, November 15, 2006 - 6:48 AMDamn, you are so wise, turtle.
The older dog doen't want to be affected by puppy at all, I suck at making this real. Current problem: puppy had to go to bad veterinarian, got really scared and claimed it an emergency, so that i had to come over even though I was chilling with the sweet, big, grumpy dog at the fire place. Big dog said: go ahead, but is really pissed off. Puppy feels like her desease is taken as a "fake".
I really don't want the cutie to go. Older dog is looking for counseling. I'm totally freaking out on the therapy-issue.
Good thing: no one is thinking about leaving anybody. Still I can't see where this is heading at. I thought I could *make* the big dog like the puppy (go ahead sniff that butt!) -- failure. i guess I need to get used to really never taking them out for a walk together. Which to me is only half the fun
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Re: pet love
Wed, November 15, 2006 - 11:41 AMMimi-
Well the older dog thought you had a contract: exclusivity 'till death would you part. A one-dog household.
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Re: pet love
Thu, November 16, 2006 - 1:20 AMHm, no. It wasn't like that at all. I've been with that one for more than five years. It's been a non-exclusive thing from the beginning on, which originally was her idea. There have been short affairs and more steady lovers, but never one that challenged her position as #1 superdog. Still, i never thought of her as particularly jealous.
The puppy stumbled into my life with some major drama to begin with (old and current other puppy lovers). But now everything between her and me is nice and cool.
Yes, i think time is the issue, especially since I strated WORKING 40 h a week. But I really really give all my best to not see one more then the other. and I don't. I do special thing with each of them, depending on their interest and schedules. Puppy is gone every second weekend anyway...
Hm, I think I could hadle all of the above mentioned pretty well, even though it tough at time, but i never questioned that. My real problem is that I feel, that the old grumpy dog doesn't think very highly of the puppy, and it makes me sad how hard she acts. Knowing that she's actually very soft and sensitive. -
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Re: pet love
Thu, November 16, 2006 - 1:09 PMAhhh. Well giving the older dog some reassurance that it will not be displaced might help. A clarification of commitment between the three of you, perhaps? A family meeting, so that the two of them can learn how to play together?
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Re: pet love
Wed, November 15, 2006 - 11:56 AMsounds like the old dog feels like the pup is taking you away from your time together. maybe when the old dog is able to get rid of the anger she feels and with better boundaries your doggies can play together. respect for pet's needs goes a long way.
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Re: pet love
Mon, February 12, 2007 - 11:24 PMis this a real PET Situation or is this some kind of Poly Metephore?
if you are seriouse... there are more Questions to be asked and answered...
is the oder dog MALE? and how much OLDER is it?
Many Older dogs do not have the energy to put up with Puppy PLAY Time. and if you sudenly had to babysit an infant or toddler every dya of your "Normal" Life... you would get the problem real Fast.
if you want to handel this ... You MUST become the PACK Leader. and if you want to do that... there is NO BETTER WAY then to RUN (Don't walk) and Get a copy of "the DOG WHISPERER" on CD ... Cesar Millan is a GENUS! and you will under stand Quickly how to be the Pack Leader... Trust me... you will want to see this.
it will teach you how dogpsycology works and how to be the King of your domain.
Your Dogs (we ARE talking Dogs here right?) will thank you.
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Re: pet love
Thu, February 15, 2007 - 8:53 AM
Nope, she said in the first message that this is a "fable" and not to give her grief about comparing her lovers to dogs.
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Re: pet love
Wed, February 21, 2007 - 1:52 AMthanks for clarifying, Stephanie.
And thanks for your advice anyway, W. Maybe I just really have to be the pack leader ;) -
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Re: pet love
Mon, February 26, 2007 - 12:29 PMI think the grumpy old dog needs to play a little nicer, after all its hard to be a puppy with an owner who already has a dog. Its hard to be a puppy and not know where you fit in especially when you have a cranky old dog barking at you everytime you turn around.Puppy is going to start wondering if maybe its not welcome. -
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Re: pet love
Mon, February 26, 2007 - 6:06 PM
And, to put the shoe on the other foot, it can be very hard to be the old dog too, to feel like the puppy is the new and exciting one, to feel that one is just the old boring one, the one that gets all the practical issues and none of the NRE and never getting to be the exciting one anymore. That can really hurt.
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Re: pet love
Tue, June 12, 2007 - 10:53 AMDoggy treats and head pets go a long way with both puppies and older dogs... But puppies often need boundaries reinforced and you may have to shout to get their attention.
But if you are all stressed out from working and having two sweeties not getting along, they may just be reacting to your change in emotional availability. Just a thought.
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Re: pet love
Sun, July 8, 2007 - 9:58 PMYep. The old dog is also thinking about all the loyalty and adoration they have shown over the years, and then to be bumped for THIS puppy?!
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